Hi Rob
Richard Fry, the Constitutional attorney working with us has written a rebuttal on The World's article on the NDAA. I posted it on Mary Geddry's site.
Richard asks that his letter be sent out to everyone on our lists to bring attention to it. Mary's also looking into a demonstration to be held in front of The World office.
Thanks a bunch guys,
Tom
Richard Fry, the Constitutional attorney working with us has written a rebuttal on The World's article on the NDAA. I posted it on Mary Geddry's site.
Richard asks that his letter be sent out to everyone on our lists to bring attention to it. Mary's also looking into a demonstration to be held in front of The World office.
Thanks a bunch guys,
Tom
The World Editorial
http://theworldlink.com/news/opinion/editorial/good-issue-wrong-venue/article_ef57ac4c-043b-11e3-8d69-0019bb2963f4.html
Rebuttal:
"World’s Article Patronized Patriots Calls for Counter Attack Strategy against Citizens"
The August 13th Op-ed piece put out by the World’s editorial board can only be characterize as a counter attack against the citizens’ effort to get the local governments to uphold their oath to the Constitution. Such was insulting, patronizing and transparent to all but the most naive in these matters and / or those desperately in need of praise and acceptance.
The editorial board’s advice to the local governing bodies on how to deal with citizens:”… listen attentively, then get back to the job it was elected to do. How UN-American. Ignore the citizens but do it politely and sugar coat it with praise. This is the fundamental reason we are losing the Republic and the personal Liberty for which it once stood i.e., indifference to the citizens.
The editorial board apparently thinks the citizens behind this movement are so inexperienced, so naive or so emotionally crippled they cannot understand the true nature of the board’s article. The board surrounded its real message in pseudo-praise of the citizens involved. Leading off with: “They are nothing if not passionate” the meaning of which became clear by the end of the article i.e., The World’s editorial board thinks we are naive zealots.
The article was not so much of a message as it was a demonstration of how to counter attack the efforts of the citizens. It encourages the local governments of Oregon to largely follow the path taken by the Coos County Commission: deny, delay, and deceive. The board even characterized the Coos County Commissions’ passage of a do nothing resolution, of its own design, as a “partial victory”. In fact it was and will remain a total loss for Liberty unless the citizens now take appropriate action to re-educate the Commission on their true responsibilities which includes being responsive to the will of the citizens. The Commission’s action was cowardly and deceptive.
The board apparently believes a key to success of this counter attack is to heap insincere and meaningless praise upon those leading the charge. Pat them on the head and tell them they are smart little boys and girls and that they really appreciate our patriotism and our “quintessentially American” activism.”
They are like the politicians in the middle of a new election cycle who pump out the words and phrases their researchers tell them the “tea party” people will responded to like: “conservative”, “original intent” , “fiscal conservative,” “self reliance” and “personal responsibility.”
The board’s comments that the citizens involved in this effort are ” well organized, educated on their position and motivated by patriotism…”, ” [t]heir presentations are thorough, their arguments persuasive…,” “the activism they’re practicing is quintessentially American — citizens actively engaged in the conduct of their government…”are insincere tripe and only meant to divert, delude, deceive and defeat the actions of “We the people.”
We do not need anyone to tell us we are good little patriots and how proud they are of us. We understand what the politicians’ oath of support means and what it requires of them and we understand when they are not up holding it. They do not need to be proud of us they need to fear us.
The editorial board’s article exposes it’s misunderstanding of or a disregard for the fundamental way this Republic is suppose to operate, where the citizens are the “kings” and the government is the servant. It is instead promoting a type of benign feudalism in which the government is sovereign and rules over its wards of the state, the citizens, in a patient and forgiving majesty.
Thanks but no thanks.
Richard D. Fry, Esq.
General Counsel
Patriot Coalition
The August 13th Op-ed piece put out by the World’s editorial board can only be characterize as a counter attack against the citizens’ effort to get the local governments to uphold their oath to the Constitution. Such was insulting, patronizing and transparent to all but the most naive in these matters and / or those desperately in need of praise and acceptance.
The editorial board’s advice to the local governing bodies on how to deal with citizens:”… listen attentively, then get back to the job it was elected to do. How UN-American. Ignore the citizens but do it politely and sugar coat it with praise. This is the fundamental reason we are losing the Republic and the personal Liberty for which it once stood i.e., indifference to the citizens.
The editorial board apparently thinks the citizens behind this movement are so inexperienced, so naive or so emotionally crippled they cannot understand the true nature of the board’s article. The board surrounded its real message in pseudo-praise of the citizens involved. Leading off with: “They are nothing if not passionate” the meaning of which became clear by the end of the article i.e., The World’s editorial board thinks we are naive zealots.
The article was not so much of a message as it was a demonstration of how to counter attack the efforts of the citizens. It encourages the local governments of Oregon to largely follow the path taken by the Coos County Commission: deny, delay, and deceive. The board even characterized the Coos County Commissions’ passage of a do nothing resolution, of its own design, as a “partial victory”. In fact it was and will remain a total loss for Liberty unless the citizens now take appropriate action to re-educate the Commission on their true responsibilities which includes being responsive to the will of the citizens. The Commission’s action was cowardly and deceptive.
The board apparently believes a key to success of this counter attack is to heap insincere and meaningless praise upon those leading the charge. Pat them on the head and tell them they are smart little boys and girls and that they really appreciate our patriotism and our “quintessentially American” activism.”
They are like the politicians in the middle of a new election cycle who pump out the words and phrases their researchers tell them the “tea party” people will responded to like: “conservative”, “original intent” , “fiscal conservative,” “self reliance” and “personal responsibility.”
The board’s comments that the citizens involved in this effort are ” well organized, educated on their position and motivated by patriotism…”, ” [t]heir presentations are thorough, their arguments persuasive…,” “the activism they’re practicing is quintessentially American — citizens actively engaged in the conduct of their government…”are insincere tripe and only meant to divert, delude, deceive and defeat the actions of “We the people.”
We do not need anyone to tell us we are good little patriots and how proud they are of us. We understand what the politicians’ oath of support means and what it requires of them and we understand when they are not up holding it. They do not need to be proud of us they need to fear us.
The editorial board’s article exposes it’s misunderstanding of or a disregard for the fundamental way this Republic is suppose to operate, where the citizens are the “kings” and the government is the servant. It is instead promoting a type of benign feudalism in which the government is sovereign and rules over its wards of the state, the citizens, in a patient and forgiving majesty.
Thanks but no thanks.
Richard D. Fry, Esq.
General Counsel
Patriot Coalition
Sweet tries to set a dangerous precedent, Zanni defends our rightsThe World “jeers” defense of civil liberties | Video of the Oathkeepers Meeting |
It was a compromised victory
Hey everyone,
Thank you for calling and emailing the BOC and letting them know that the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 is a very bad law for Americans. The Commissioners voted down the Restoring Constitutional Governance Resolution that Constitutional Attorney Richard Fry had drafted specifically to oppose the unconstitutional provisions of the NDAA 2012 and opted to vote on the resolution most acceptable to the Board.
The result was a stronger draft on the resolution drafted by Commissioner Main and Legal Counsel Josh Sober, but it still has a few problems with its final construct. Commissioner Sweet stood his ground and voted NO on both resolutions.
Unfortunately, the support for an initiative to put the RCG resolution on the ballot is waning due to the passage of the compromised resolution passed by the BOC. Therefore, I do not believe it would be wise to waste energy on an initiative when we can work to put most of the wording from the RCG resolution into the Coordination Plan that the County’s attorney is currently drafting. Enacting the Coordination Plan with this wording would make the resolution part of the law and not just a symbolic document.
There are other opportunities on the horizon. The Coos Bay City Council will be deciding if the city should enact the RCG Resolution and you can help by calling the City Councilors and ask them to support your rights by voting YES on the RCG Resolution against the unconstitutional provisions, sections 1021 & 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012. You can contact the Coos Bay Councilors by calling or emailing the City Manager.
Coos Bay City Manager
541-269-8912
rcraddock@coosbay.org
Please continue to stay current on this issue in Coos County, because we will be calling on your support again.
America’s perpetual War on Terror & War on Drugs has created an environment of constant government suspicion and surveillance of the people at an exponentially alarming rate. We must be vigilant against these types of laws.
Thank you for calling and emailing the BOC and letting them know that the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 is a very bad law for Americans. The Commissioners voted down the Restoring Constitutional Governance Resolution that Constitutional Attorney Richard Fry had drafted specifically to oppose the unconstitutional provisions of the NDAA 2012 and opted to vote on the resolution most acceptable to the Board.
The result was a stronger draft on the resolution drafted by Commissioner Main and Legal Counsel Josh Sober, but it still has a few problems with its final construct. Commissioner Sweet stood his ground and voted NO on both resolutions.
Unfortunately, the support for an initiative to put the RCG resolution on the ballot is waning due to the passage of the compromised resolution passed by the BOC. Therefore, I do not believe it would be wise to waste energy on an initiative when we can work to put most of the wording from the RCG resolution into the Coordination Plan that the County’s attorney is currently drafting. Enacting the Coordination Plan with this wording would make the resolution part of the law and not just a symbolic document.
There are other opportunities on the horizon. The Coos Bay City Council will be deciding if the city should enact the RCG Resolution and you can help by calling the City Councilors and ask them to support your rights by voting YES on the RCG Resolution against the unconstitutional provisions, sections 1021 & 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012. You can contact the Coos Bay Councilors by calling or emailing the City Manager.
Coos Bay City Manager
541-269-8912
rcraddock@coosbay.org
Please continue to stay current on this issue in Coos County, because we will be calling on your support again.
America’s perpetual War on Terror & War on Drugs has created an environment of constant government suspicion and surveillance of the people at an exponentially alarming rate. We must be vigilant against these types of laws.
The Commission's resolution is deficient in the following regards:
1. It does not address the application of the "law of war" to citizens[1] anywhere including in the U.S., under whatever asserted authority,
2. It address only "indefinite military detention", but NDAA violates over half the Bill of Rights[2]and citizen
protections under Article III §3,
3. It does not find the subject NDAA provisions to be "unconstitutional" but only "opposes" the ""indefinite military detention" thereby tacitly approving the vast majority of violations of citizens' fundamental rights,
4. It does not direct employees and agents of the County not to assist in the violation of citizens’ rights and thereby leaves it up to the employees discretion as to whether they assist in such violations,
5. It does not direct employees and agents of the County to go to the aid of citizens whose fundamental rights are being violated under the NDAA or other related authority, thereby failing to provide leadership to their
subordinates,
6. By failing to provide a detailed account of the NDAA violation, they are failing to educate and motivate our fellow citizens and public officials about the serious constitutional violations and to act to protect the citizens' rights.
7. By substituting their deficient resolution for that proposed by the citizens, the Commissioners are attempting
to disregard the will of "We the People".
8. By proposing and supporting this resolution, the Commissioners are violating their oath to support the Constitution and are violating their duty to protect the fundamental rights of the citizens.
Richard D. Fry,
General Counsel
Patriot Coalition
1. It does not address the application of the "law of war" to citizens[1] anywhere including in the U.S., under whatever asserted authority,
2. It address only "indefinite military detention", but NDAA violates over half the Bill of Rights[2]and citizen
protections under Article III §3,
3. It does not find the subject NDAA provisions to be "unconstitutional" but only "opposes" the ""indefinite military detention" thereby tacitly approving the vast majority of violations of citizens' fundamental rights,
4. It does not direct employees and agents of the County not to assist in the violation of citizens’ rights and thereby leaves it up to the employees discretion as to whether they assist in such violations,
5. It does not direct employees and agents of the County to go to the aid of citizens whose fundamental rights are being violated under the NDAA or other related authority, thereby failing to provide leadership to their
subordinates,
6. By failing to provide a detailed account of the NDAA violation, they are failing to educate and motivate our fellow citizens and public officials about the serious constitutional violations and to act to protect the citizens' rights.
7. By substituting their deficient resolution for that proposed by the citizens, the Commissioners are attempting
to disregard the will of "We the People".
8. By proposing and supporting this resolution, the Commissioners are violating their oath to support the Constitution and are violating their duty to protect the fundamental rights of the citizens.
Richard D. Fry,
General Counsel
Patriot Coalition
[1] Herein "citizens" includes lawful legal residents who are also protected by the Constitution.
[2] Amendments I (3X), IV (3x), V(3X), VI (4x), VIII,(2x)
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| Here is a link to the article in The World: County adopts anti-NDAA resolution http://theworldlink.com/news/local/county-adopts-anti-ndaa-resolution/article_ecf31060-f9f3-11e2-841f-0019bb2963f4.html | |
Immediate Call to Action: | Contact the Coos County CommissionersBob Main (541) 396-7540 bmain@co.coos.or.us John Sweet (541) 396-7541 jsweet@co.coos.or.us Melissa Cribbins (541) 396-7539 mcribbins@co.coos.or.us Commissioners Assistant Bobbie Brooks 541-396-7535 bbrooks@co.coos.or.us Must Watch Video of Senator Merkley debating the NDAA 2012DOWNLOAD A COPY OF THE NDAA RESOLUTION FOR COOS COUNTY
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| | Sweet: I am not going to answer your questionsAs reported earlier this week, John Sweet and I had a fairly contentious exchange regarding a county resolution opposing provisions 1021 and 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act. At issue is the lack of public testimony supporting his stance against the resolution. Later, I pointed out that when historians compare his voting record with the public record, it will reflect his personal agenda over the will of the people and he said he understood. Nevertheless, Sweet is resolute in his decision to ignore the NDAA and the citizens of Coos County who have taken the time to speak. At the next meeting of the board of commissioners, on July 30, 2013 beginning at 9:30AM in the Owen Building, a resolution opposing provisions of the NDAA will be on the agenda for board discussion. Please attend, it is so important. |
| Hey Everyone, We need to slam the paper with Letters to the Editor. The Town Hall on the NDAA Resolution is at the North Bend Library in large conference room on Monday July 15th, 2013. I think Tom McKirgan planned on 6pm as the start of the meeting. http://goo.gl/maps/rlxTu The BOC meeting is the next day, Tuesday July 16th, 2013. Please, send the link on the World editorial to everyone and ask them to respond. http://theworldlink.com/news/opinion/editorial/county-should-mind-own-business/article_6b3deee4-d1eb-11e2-b384-0019bb2963f4.html Here is a link to Rick Staggenborg's letter. http://theworldlink.com/opinion/letters/unite-to-oppose-dangerous-law/article_cf5d1dfa-cff2-11e2-aa81-001a4bcf887a.html People need to comment on these articles on the papers website, just enough to put the story in the most read section. We are right on the mark with this issue and we really need to hype the story. the video of the BOC meeting was uploaded. Here's the website. http://coosmediacenter.pegcentral.com/player.php?video=ced88f03d09fbdb3a763ab80d8c1b8be The time is ripe to hit these types of issues. http://theworldlink.com/news/opinion/editorial/county-should-mind-own-business/article_6b3deee4-d1eb-11e2-b384-0019bb2963f4.html Sincerely, Rob Taylor Email: cooscountywatchdog@hotmail.com Website: www.CoosCountyWatchdog.com |   Here is the link to the petition: NDAA Petition |
Sweet has no support for his refusal to
adopt county resolution opposing NDAA
Article by Mary Geddry
In a knee-jerk reaction to the events of 9/11 Congress enacted the Patriot Act which President George Bush signed into law on October 26, 2001. Federal courts have ruled that a number of provisions of the Patriot Act are unconstitutional and some provisions were set to sunset four years later. In the spring of 2005, about the time my Marine son was completing his second tour in Iraq, these provisions did not sunset but were instead made permanent and subsections of the Patriot Act are the basis for which the NSA now claims it may legally spy on
Americans.
Last night I participated in a town hall meeting discussing the constitutional violations contained in sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012/13 National Defense Authorization Act. Details of the meeting will be posted here when the video becomes available but one of the goals of the meeting is to put pressure on John Sweet and Melissa Cribbins to support a county resolution opposing the offending subsections of the Act and use it to empower the state legislature to enact a similar resolution and ultimately apply sufficient pressure upon Congress to repeal these sections. This is how all major change occurs. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 first began with local town halls and demonstrations and vigorous public debate. Neither Sweet nor Cribbins understand they are elected to be the voice of the people and it’s the people that set federal policy. Both commissioners are refusing to defend our inalienable civil rights or represent their constituents in the false belief they have no influence in Congress.
A hand painted sign on the gate post of my son’s forward operating base in Ramadi cautioned each convoy that exited the base. “Complacency Kills,” it warned and in Ramadi this was literally true. Though my son was fighting in Iraq at the request of his Commander in Chief and therefore the American people, he returned to find that Americans had been complacent and allowed Congress to chip away at the very things for which he thought he was risking his life. He came home to find his civil liberties usurped and to discover his own government was
spying on him because too many complacent Americans like John Sweet and Melissa Cribbins weren’t paying attention. While our military is fighting for them over there, they aren’t fighting over here and are refusing to fight for us now.
Dozens of people have commented into the public record and submitted emails insisting the board pass a resolution opposing sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA. During today’s BOC meeting Sweet acknowledged he has heard no public testimony nor received any requests asking the board NOT to support such a resolution. When I suggested that he is therefore not representing the will of the people but instead representing his own personal preferences he got angry. “Mary, you can ask all the questions you want in the time you have left,” he
fumed. “But I am not going to answer them.” Before leaving the podium I told him that he in fact had answered the question. John Sweet is representing himself and only himself in this matter.
Later at lunch, Sweet and I continued the discussion and he then told me people on the street had told him they didn’t think this was a matter of county of business. When I asked him whether he gave more weight to the opinions of “people on the street” than the testimony of citizens who took the time to become a part of the public record he rigorously assured me neither had any influence on in his decision. “I am voting my conscience,” he declared firmly. This isn’t going to play out well for him and I told him so.
It is hard to say what conscience has to do with this issue. John Sweet’s conscience will not allow him to let the people decide what qualifies as county business? Is that what he is saying? Perhaps his conscience will not abide him giving up his complacency to defend our civil liberties. More probably his conscience or his ego won’t allow him to acknowledge that it is the people who elected him who get to set the rules.
Sweet, on the one hand is acting as if he is omnipotent. He alone is the decider, indifferent to public influence and he will vote his conscience regardless what the people want. On the other hand, he declares he is impotent,
powerless to do anything about our concerns. Working to change federal policy is too high a bar and beyond the narrow limits he has set for himself and for which he expects the rest of us to settle.
Fight for your rights and mine and call, email or visit your elected officials including the county commissioners and tell them you value your inalienable rights and you expect them to be protected. Take time off and appear at the next county commission meeting, July 30 at 9:30AM and help fill the room and make Sweet and Cribbin’s complacency and indifference as uncomfortable for them as their inaction is disappointing and frustrating for the rest of us. Let’s flood the meeting with so many public comments that the commissioners are ‘indefinitely detained’ well past the lunch hour.
Americans.
Last night I participated in a town hall meeting discussing the constitutional violations contained in sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012/13 National Defense Authorization Act. Details of the meeting will be posted here when the video becomes available but one of the goals of the meeting is to put pressure on John Sweet and Melissa Cribbins to support a county resolution opposing the offending subsections of the Act and use it to empower the state legislature to enact a similar resolution and ultimately apply sufficient pressure upon Congress to repeal these sections. This is how all major change occurs. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 first began with local town halls and demonstrations and vigorous public debate. Neither Sweet nor Cribbins understand they are elected to be the voice of the people and it’s the people that set federal policy. Both commissioners are refusing to defend our inalienable civil rights or represent their constituents in the false belief they have no influence in Congress.
A hand painted sign on the gate post of my son’s forward operating base in Ramadi cautioned each convoy that exited the base. “Complacency Kills,” it warned and in Ramadi this was literally true. Though my son was fighting in Iraq at the request of his Commander in Chief and therefore the American people, he returned to find that Americans had been complacent and allowed Congress to chip away at the very things for which he thought he was risking his life. He came home to find his civil liberties usurped and to discover his own government was
spying on him because too many complacent Americans like John Sweet and Melissa Cribbins weren’t paying attention. While our military is fighting for them over there, they aren’t fighting over here and are refusing to fight for us now.
Dozens of people have commented into the public record and submitted emails insisting the board pass a resolution opposing sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA. During today’s BOC meeting Sweet acknowledged he has heard no public testimony nor received any requests asking the board NOT to support such a resolution. When I suggested that he is therefore not representing the will of the people but instead representing his own personal preferences he got angry. “Mary, you can ask all the questions you want in the time you have left,” he
fumed. “But I am not going to answer them.” Before leaving the podium I told him that he in fact had answered the question. John Sweet is representing himself and only himself in this matter.
Later at lunch, Sweet and I continued the discussion and he then told me people on the street had told him they didn’t think this was a matter of county of business. When I asked him whether he gave more weight to the opinions of “people on the street” than the testimony of citizens who took the time to become a part of the public record he rigorously assured me neither had any influence on in his decision. “I am voting my conscience,” he declared firmly. This isn’t going to play out well for him and I told him so.
It is hard to say what conscience has to do with this issue. John Sweet’s conscience will not allow him to let the people decide what qualifies as county business? Is that what he is saying? Perhaps his conscience will not abide him giving up his complacency to defend our civil liberties. More probably his conscience or his ego won’t allow him to acknowledge that it is the people who elected him who get to set the rules.
Sweet, on the one hand is acting as if he is omnipotent. He alone is the decider, indifferent to public influence and he will vote his conscience regardless what the people want. On the other hand, he declares he is impotent,
powerless to do anything about our concerns. Working to change federal policy is too high a bar and beyond the narrow limits he has set for himself and for which he expects the rest of us to settle.
Fight for your rights and mine and call, email or visit your elected officials including the county commissioners and tell them you value your inalienable rights and you expect them to be protected. Take time off and appear at the next county commission meeting, July 30 at 9:30AM and help fill the room and make Sweet and Cribbin’s complacency and indifference as uncomfortable for them as their inaction is disappointing and frustrating for the rest of us. Let’s flood the meeting with so many public comments that the commissioners are ‘indefinitely detained’ well past the lunch hour.
Bob Main | John Sweet | Melissa Cribbins |
The World NDAA editorial sparks reaction from across the continent
http://mgx.com/blogs/2013/06/28/the-world-ndaa-editorial-sparks-reaction-from-across-the-continent/
The World editorials are often worthy of ridicule and derision, in my opinion, for forsaking sound arguments in favor of insults such as when the paper likened public participation to a haunting. Or when the paper labeled citizens who dare to voice an opinion or ask a question as “natterers“. The paper regularly irritates locals but a recent editorial discouraging local action denouncing the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) has riled people up across the continent. Below is a response sent to The World publisher, Jeff Precourt, from a county commissioner in Oakland County, Michigan that really takes the paper and indirectly, John Sweet and Melissa
Cribbins, to task. Read and enjoy. Mr. Precourt,
Concern for constitutional liberties is an issue with long legs. The debate about the proposed resolution to condemn Sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) in the Coos County Commissioners Court travelled all the way to Michigan. I recently became aware of the position taken by the World newspaper in opposing the resolution put forth before Coos County Commissioners that would have opposed the unconstitutional provisions of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act. In the article published in The World the following line was written. “You wouldn’t go to your dentist about a broken leg. So why hound your county commissioners about national security policy?”
The reasons that citizens should appeal to their county commissioners about national security policy are because their voices are not being heard in Washington, D.C., and to quote the Declaration of the Independence, “government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.”
When the County Commissioners in Oakland County, Michigan considered and passed our resolution condemning Sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012 NDAA, many of the same arguments now leveled against the Coos County Commissioners were leveled against us. Oakland County is a county of 1.2 million people, and it is the economic engine of Michigan. We are AAA rated and ranked in many national categories as being amongst the best run in the counties in the nation. Our commissioners weighed in on this issue because we value and enshrine the principles found in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
Our resolution condemning the NDAA was unanimous and bipartisan. We had people from local Tea Parties, Occupy, and PANDA all speaking in favor of the resolution. How ironic that in this day and age when the whole nation is bemoaning hyper-political polarization, with political parties often taking positions at the extremes of
left and right, that a major concern of The World is that this issue is bringing together “unlikely political bedfellows.”
And the problem with unifying the political divide is what?
Further, The World is asserting that the NDAA bill is undeniably, a “nasty piece of legislative mischief,” “gives current and future presidents unprecedented power,” and is a “dramatic expansion of federal authority.” However, the newspaper is also asserting that this initiative taken by the commissioners is nothing but a “roar of futility” in which the commissioners “have no legitimate role”.
We heard that same claptrap in Oakland County.
Fortunately, our commissioners understood that we the people have an important voice, and that our constituents elected us to be their voice. After we passed the resolution that you describe as a “roar of futility,” the issue was taken up by the Michigan State Legislature. The state legislature then unanimously passed a bill through both the House and Senate prohibiting state agents and law enforcement from participating with federal agents in the indefinite detention of our citizens.
Fortunately, during our debate and vote on our resolution and the Bill in our legislature, our Michigan papers never deplored the “combination of political bedfellows” working on behalf of liberty. I sincerely hope that you will reconsider the stance that The World has taken in light of our experience in Michigan.
Respectfully,
Jim Runestad
County Commissioner, District 6
Oakland County, Michigan
“The World” finally reaches national notice…
The World editorials are often worthy of ridicule and derision, in my opinion, for forsaking sound arguments in favor of insults such as when the paper likened public participation to a haunting. Or when the paper labeled citizens who dare to voice an opinion or ask a question as “natterers“. The paper regularly irritates locals but a recent editorial discouraging local action denouncing the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act) has riled people up across the continent. Below is a response sent to The World publisher, Jeff Precourt, from a county commissioner in Oakland County, Michigan that really takes the paper and indirectly, John Sweet and Melissa
Cribbins, to task. Read and enjoy. Mr. Precourt,
Concern for constitutional liberties is an issue with long legs. The debate about the proposed resolution to condemn Sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) in the Coos County Commissioners Court travelled all the way to Michigan. I recently became aware of the position taken by the World newspaper in opposing the resolution put forth before Coos County Commissioners that would have opposed the unconstitutional provisions of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act. In the article published in The World the following line was written. “You wouldn’t go to your dentist about a broken leg. So why hound your county commissioners about national security policy?”
The reasons that citizens should appeal to their county commissioners about national security policy are because their voices are not being heard in Washington, D.C., and to quote the Declaration of the Independence, “government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.”
When the County Commissioners in Oakland County, Michigan considered and passed our resolution condemning Sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012 NDAA, many of the same arguments now leveled against the Coos County Commissioners were leveled against us. Oakland County is a county of 1.2 million people, and it is the economic engine of Michigan. We are AAA rated and ranked in many national categories as being amongst the best run in the counties in the nation. Our commissioners weighed in on this issue because we value and enshrine the principles found in the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
Our resolution condemning the NDAA was unanimous and bipartisan. We had people from local Tea Parties, Occupy, and PANDA all speaking in favor of the resolution. How ironic that in this day and age when the whole nation is bemoaning hyper-political polarization, with political parties often taking positions at the extremes of
left and right, that a major concern of The World is that this issue is bringing together “unlikely political bedfellows.”
And the problem with unifying the political divide is what?
Further, The World is asserting that the NDAA bill is undeniably, a “nasty piece of legislative mischief,” “gives current and future presidents unprecedented power,” and is a “dramatic expansion of federal authority.” However, the newspaper is also asserting that this initiative taken by the commissioners is nothing but a “roar of futility” in which the commissioners “have no legitimate role”.
We heard that same claptrap in Oakland County.
Fortunately, our commissioners understood that we the people have an important voice, and that our constituents elected us to be their voice. After we passed the resolution that you describe as a “roar of futility,” the issue was taken up by the Michigan State Legislature. The state legislature then unanimously passed a bill through both the House and Senate prohibiting state agents and law enforcement from participating with federal agents in the indefinite detention of our citizens.
Fortunately, during our debate and vote on our resolution and the Bill in our legislature, our Michigan papers never deplored the “combination of political bedfellows” working on behalf of liberty. I sincerely hope that you will reconsider the stance that The World has taken in light of our experience in Michigan.
Respectfully,
Jim Runestad
County Commissioner, District 6
Oakland County, Michigan
“The World” finally reaches national notice…
Open Letter to the Coos County
Board of Commissioners
Attn: Commissioner Robert (Bob) Main
7 June, 2013
Fr: Chief Petitioner Tom McKirgan
Re: July 16th BOC Agenda Request
Dear Commissioner Main,
As chief petitioner in presenting the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act aka NDAA resolution to the Coos County Board of Commissioners; please accept this as a formal request to have this issue placed on the agenda for the July 16th BOC meeting. Per a brief discussion on the matter with chairman John Sweet, myself and Rob Taylor, he authorized you to place it on the agenda in his stead. Therefore, he's agreed to allow it to be vicariously placed on the agenda via your approval.
I, along with the support of several grass roots organizations to wit; Oath Keepers, PANDA and other concerned citizens would kindly request that this very important issue be opened for public discussion, hopefully resulting in a vote to adopt the aforementioned resolution that was specifically tailored for Coos County, Oregon. We ask that Coos County become the leader in protecting Oregonians rights to due process of the law of the land guaranteed by both U.S. and Oregon Constitutions.
I'm attaching the short county resolution which outlines the generalities within the long version which is used as a reference and definition tool. The short version emulates the long and can be used as the official county ordinance. Along with this version is the short Sheriff's resolution that can be implemented into department policy. I did not include the long version at this time, due to the fact that Sheriff Zanni, county counsel and Commissioner Cribbins have these in hand. Obviously, these are being sent electronically, but, I will hand deliver them to the Commissioners office on Monday June 10th. Please feel free to contact me anytime
if you require any further documentation.
Respectfully your humble constituent,
Tom McKirgan
Oath Keeper S.W. Oregon Coordinator
"Not On Our Watch"
7 June, 2013
Fr: Chief Petitioner Tom McKirgan
Re: July 16th BOC Agenda Request
Dear Commissioner Main,
As chief petitioner in presenting the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act aka NDAA resolution to the Coos County Board of Commissioners; please accept this as a formal request to have this issue placed on the agenda for the July 16th BOC meeting. Per a brief discussion on the matter with chairman John Sweet, myself and Rob Taylor, he authorized you to place it on the agenda in his stead. Therefore, he's agreed to allow it to be vicariously placed on the agenda via your approval.
I, along with the support of several grass roots organizations to wit; Oath Keepers, PANDA and other concerned citizens would kindly request that this very important issue be opened for public discussion, hopefully resulting in a vote to adopt the aforementioned resolution that was specifically tailored for Coos County, Oregon. We ask that Coos County become the leader in protecting Oregonians rights to due process of the law of the land guaranteed by both U.S. and Oregon Constitutions.
I'm attaching the short county resolution which outlines the generalities within the long version which is used as a reference and definition tool. The short version emulates the long and can be used as the official county ordinance. Along with this version is the short Sheriff's resolution that can be implemented into department policy. I did not include the long version at this time, due to the fact that Sheriff Zanni, county counsel and Commissioner Cribbins have these in hand. Obviously, these are being sent electronically, but, I will hand deliver them to the Commissioners office on Monday June 10th. Please feel free to contact me anytime
if you require any further documentation.
Respectfully your humble constituent,
Tom McKirgan
Oath Keeper S.W. Oregon Coordinator
"Not On Our Watch"
From Tom McKirgan of Oath Keepers Updated 6-3-2013
Fellow Patriots,
On Tuesday June 4th those of us pushing the county to pass the resolution rejecting the sections in the NDAA will be at the Board of Commissioners meeting to again ask them to place this on the agenda for open discussion and a vote. They're dragging their feet and refuse to act on it. Two of them absolutely WILL NOT vote to protect our God given inalienable Constitutional rights!!! Who in their right mind would
ever vote against protecting ours and even their own civil rights??? That's akin to tying your own noose for the hangman with your own rope! They have the authority, the means and the ability to pass it.
The last time we went before them, there were only a handful of us. This time, we're in dire
need of as many supporters we can muster who will speak during the public comment part which begins at 9:30 AM at the Owen building on the corner of 2nd and Adams in Coquille. We know your time is valuable,
but, if you can spend one hour or even less, it would greatly help.
Going into town, turn left at the traffic light, go down two blocks. The Owen building is on the left corner. Please show up early to sign in to talk. We must be polite yet firm. These people work for us, yet by their actions, one wouldn't think so.
As you know, this awful Bill allows for the indefinite detention and rendition of same to a foreign country by mere
suspicion of being linked to terrorism. We are now living under a soft form of martial law where military rule over civilians comes before the Constitutionally protected rights to due process. With the NDAA, you don't get a lawyer or know the charge against you, you're not able to confront your witnesses. You do not get your Miranda rights and can be held as an enemy combatant.
We've pleaded with commissioners Sweet and Cribbins to pass the resolution. Both are adamantly against signing the resolution that would protect your rights through the sheriff and his deputies, to interpose themselves between you and the federal authorities who attempt to take such unconstitutional acts
upon the people in this county.
Commissioner Main is the only one of the three commissioner who is upholding his oath to the Constitution by rejecting any law or act that is contrary to the U.S. and State Constitutions. Both Sweet and Cribbins believe they were elected to handle only county business and not interfere with federal legislation. Excuse me,
but, this IS county business and per the Constitution they MUST act to protect their citizens from unconstitutional acts. Many other cities, counties and states have. Why not them?
Thank you kindly,
In Liberty,
Tom McKirgan
Oath Keeper
S.W. Oregon Coordinator
"Not On Our Watch"
Fellow Patriots,
On Tuesday June 4th those of us pushing the county to pass the resolution rejecting the sections in the NDAA will be at the Board of Commissioners meeting to again ask them to place this on the agenda for open discussion and a vote. They're dragging their feet and refuse to act on it. Two of them absolutely WILL NOT vote to protect our God given inalienable Constitutional rights!!! Who in their right mind would
ever vote against protecting ours and even their own civil rights??? That's akin to tying your own noose for the hangman with your own rope! They have the authority, the means and the ability to pass it.
The last time we went before them, there were only a handful of us. This time, we're in dire
need of as many supporters we can muster who will speak during the public comment part which begins at 9:30 AM at the Owen building on the corner of 2nd and Adams in Coquille. We know your time is valuable,
but, if you can spend one hour or even less, it would greatly help.
Going into town, turn left at the traffic light, go down two blocks. The Owen building is on the left corner. Please show up early to sign in to talk. We must be polite yet firm. These people work for us, yet by their actions, one wouldn't think so.
As you know, this awful Bill allows for the indefinite detention and rendition of same to a foreign country by mere
suspicion of being linked to terrorism. We are now living under a soft form of martial law where military rule over civilians comes before the Constitutionally protected rights to due process. With the NDAA, you don't get a lawyer or know the charge against you, you're not able to confront your witnesses. You do not get your Miranda rights and can be held as an enemy combatant.
We've pleaded with commissioners Sweet and Cribbins to pass the resolution. Both are adamantly against signing the resolution that would protect your rights through the sheriff and his deputies, to interpose themselves between you and the federal authorities who attempt to take such unconstitutional acts
upon the people in this county.
Commissioner Main is the only one of the three commissioner who is upholding his oath to the Constitution by rejecting any law or act that is contrary to the U.S. and State Constitutions. Both Sweet and Cribbins believe they were elected to handle only county business and not interfere with federal legislation. Excuse me,
but, this IS county business and per the Constitution they MUST act to protect their citizens from unconstitutional acts. Many other cities, counties and states have. Why not them?
Thank you kindly,
In Liberty,
Tom McKirgan
Oath Keeper
S.W. Oregon Coordinator
"Not On Our Watch"
Dear fellow liberty loving Americans,---updated 5/10/2013
On May 6th, Oath Keepers and Coos County Watchdog were interviewed on the Jim Bice Show KWRO AM Radio. The talk was about the 2012 NDAA. We asked listeners to support our efforts in asking the Coos
County Commissioners to pass the resolution rejecting it, as it violates nearly all of our Bills of Rights.
The next morning we, along with concerned members of the community walked into the Commissioners meeting. Along with us was Shane Ozbun of Eugene, who is the Oregon director for PANDA: People
Against The NDAA. Nine of us signed in to use the three minute public comment time to express our dismay at Mrs. Cribbins and Mr. Sweet for deciding against passing the resolution that would protect our liberties. It was an emotional plea made by all. Unfortunately, Mr. Sweet was not present during the meeting, therefor a vote couldn't be taken.
Mrs. Cribbins position was that she had no authority to reject Federal laws regardless of their Constitutionality.
She was advised of the possibility of a recall and or the filing of an initiative that would certainly cost a great deal of money to the county and very likely end with a win for passing the resolution by public vote.
This fight isn't over by a long shot. We're going back!!! But, this time, we'll ask for more support from
those who can participate. If we're going to be successful in Oregon, we must all be willing to put in a few miles and time in helping to further our causes for liberty throughout the State. Douglas and Lane Counties are in line for a resolution. We'll be there. Will you?
We thank everyone who was there yesterday to state their feelings, which is greatly appreciated. All who made calls and sent emails, we deeply thank you. Together, we are a force to be reckoned with. A force to be
respected and trusted to do the right thing in bringing liberty back to America. Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
Stay with us until we win and win some more. There is no turning back if we are to secure the future for ourselves, our families and friends. Stand united, or fall divided. There is no other course. Try to imagine
our founding fathers having to walk, ride horseback or in a surrey to get where they were summoned, because the cause for freedom was so paramount. We're now following in their footsteps with the advice and tools they left us with to continue our way of life that they devised.
The next Coos County Board of Commissioners meeting that we plan to attend will soon be announced. We'll try to give as much notice as possible beforehand. Remember, with just one win, we can take this to the State of Oregon like other States have. Don't forget to sign the petition against the NDAA at Coos County Watchdog. Thank you and God bless America.
http://www.cooscountywatchdog.com/
Tom McKirgan
Oath Keeper S.W. Oregon Coordinator
"Not On Our Watch"
On May 6th, Oath Keepers and Coos County Watchdog were interviewed on the Jim Bice Show KWRO AM Radio. The talk was about the 2012 NDAA. We asked listeners to support our efforts in asking the Coos
County Commissioners to pass the resolution rejecting it, as it violates nearly all of our Bills of Rights.
The next morning we, along with concerned members of the community walked into the Commissioners meeting. Along with us was Shane Ozbun of Eugene, who is the Oregon director for PANDA: People
Against The NDAA. Nine of us signed in to use the three minute public comment time to express our dismay at Mrs. Cribbins and Mr. Sweet for deciding against passing the resolution that would protect our liberties. It was an emotional plea made by all. Unfortunately, Mr. Sweet was not present during the meeting, therefor a vote couldn't be taken.
Mrs. Cribbins position was that she had no authority to reject Federal laws regardless of their Constitutionality.
She was advised of the possibility of a recall and or the filing of an initiative that would certainly cost a great deal of money to the county and very likely end with a win for passing the resolution by public vote.
This fight isn't over by a long shot. We're going back!!! But, this time, we'll ask for more support from
those who can participate. If we're going to be successful in Oregon, we must all be willing to put in a few miles and time in helping to further our causes for liberty throughout the State. Douglas and Lane Counties are in line for a resolution. We'll be there. Will you?
We thank everyone who was there yesterday to state their feelings, which is greatly appreciated. All who made calls and sent emails, we deeply thank you. Together, we are a force to be reckoned with. A force to be
respected and trusted to do the right thing in bringing liberty back to America. Liberty once lost, is lost forever.
Stay with us until we win and win some more. There is no turning back if we are to secure the future for ourselves, our families and friends. Stand united, or fall divided. There is no other course. Try to imagine
our founding fathers having to walk, ride horseback or in a surrey to get where they were summoned, because the cause for freedom was so paramount. We're now following in their footsteps with the advice and tools they left us with to continue our way of life that they devised.
The next Coos County Board of Commissioners meeting that we plan to attend will soon be announced. We'll try to give as much notice as possible beforehand. Remember, with just one win, we can take this to the State of Oregon like other States have. Don't forget to sign the petition against the NDAA at Coos County Watchdog. Thank you and God bless America.
http://www.cooscountywatchdog.com/
Tom McKirgan
Oath Keeper S.W. Oregon Coordinator
"Not On Our Watch"
Oregon Oath Keepers & Oregon PANDA (People Against NDAA.) Update 4/29/2013
On April 2nd, 2012,
Coos County Board of Commissioners were given a detailed presentation explaining the
2012 National Defense Authorization Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012
Commissioners sidetrack plea to disobey defense law
http://theworldlink.com/news/
Please send an email with a follow up phone call to Coos County Commissioners John Sweet and
Melissa Cribbins.
On May 7th, 2013 at 9:30 AM, we will be going back to the Coos County Commissioners meeting to ask for a vote on the resolution we provided them in rejecting sections 1021 and 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). It will be at the Owen building at the corner of 2nd and Adams in Coquille.
Everyone is invited and encouraged to attend in a show of support for passing the
resolution. Please arrive by 9:15 to sign in if you plan to use the public comment time, which is also
strongly encouraged and appreciated. Make your voices be heard.
The NDAA places American citizens and lawful resident aliens under the military laws of war, subjecting
them to indefinite detention and rendition to a foreign country or entity until the end of hostilities, without any form of due process.
In the subject line, please put:
PASS NDAA RESOLUTION
Commissioner and chairman, Mr. Sweet is against rejecting sections 1021 and 1021of the 2012 NDAA. He thinks that the county commissioners were elected to conduct only county business instead of dabble in federal
legislation, nor does he wish to be lectured on honoring his sworn oath to the U.S. and State Constitutions. jsweet@co.coos.or.us541-396-7541.
Attorney Mrs. Cribbins will not respond to emails or phone calls. Of the three commissioners, she is the swing vote that would decide whether or not the commission will protect the Constitutional rights of their citizens from unconstitutional Federal abuses. mcribbins@co.coos.or.us 541-396-7539.
Commissioner Bob Main is 100% behind passing the resolution to reject sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA. Feel free to send him an email thanking him for his stance on individual liberties. bmain@co.coos.or.us541-396-7540.
We're all counting on your patriotism in bringing back liberty where it belongs; to We The People.
Thank you for doing your part. God bless America!
In Liberty,
Oregon Oath Keepers & Oregon PANDA (People Against NDAA.)
On April 2nd, 2012,
Coos County Board of Commissioners were given a detailed presentation explaining the
2012 National Defense Authorization Act.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012
Commissioners sidetrack plea to disobey defense law
http://theworldlink.com/news/
Please send an email with a follow up phone call to Coos County Commissioners John Sweet and
Melissa Cribbins.
On May 7th, 2013 at 9:30 AM, we will be going back to the Coos County Commissioners meeting to ask for a vote on the resolution we provided them in rejecting sections 1021 and 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). It will be at the Owen building at the corner of 2nd and Adams in Coquille.
Everyone is invited and encouraged to attend in a show of support for passing the
resolution. Please arrive by 9:15 to sign in if you plan to use the public comment time, which is also
strongly encouraged and appreciated. Make your voices be heard.
The NDAA places American citizens and lawful resident aliens under the military laws of war, subjecting
them to indefinite detention and rendition to a foreign country or entity until the end of hostilities, without any form of due process.
In the subject line, please put:
PASS NDAA RESOLUTION
Commissioner and chairman, Mr. Sweet is against rejecting sections 1021 and 1021of the 2012 NDAA. He thinks that the county commissioners were elected to conduct only county business instead of dabble in federal
legislation, nor does he wish to be lectured on honoring his sworn oath to the U.S. and State Constitutions. jsweet@co.coos.or.us541-396-7541.
Attorney Mrs. Cribbins will not respond to emails or phone calls. Of the three commissioners, she is the swing vote that would decide whether or not the commission will protect the Constitutional rights of their citizens from unconstitutional Federal abuses. mcribbins@co.coos.or.us 541-396-7539.
Commissioner Bob Main is 100% behind passing the resolution to reject sections 1021 and 1022 of the NDAA. Feel free to send him an email thanking him for his stance on individual liberties. bmain@co.coos.or.us541-396-7540.
We're all counting on your patriotism in bringing back liberty where it belongs; to We The People.
Thank you for doing your part. God bless America!
In Liberty,
Oregon Oath Keepers & Oregon PANDA (People Against NDAA.)
| Rob and Connie, I just got this email from the OK membership coordinator. Ellen Keeland from Reedsport joined Oath Keepers as a life member. She mentioned the three of us as being an inspiration to her and others. Great job you two! Thanks for all of your help. In Liberty, Tom Tom McKirgan |  |
Update on the NDAA from Tom McKirgan of the Oath Keepers 4/18/2013:
Fellow Patriots,
On April 2nd, myself and Shane Ozbun with PANDA proposed the resolution to the Coos County Oregon commissioners asking them to reject sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012 NDAA. This is a non partisan issue
We're awaiting their decision, but do not know when they will vote on it. Commissioner Bob Main is 100% in favor of passing the resolution.
We could sure use many more calls and emails from all of you to sway commissioners Melissa Cribbins (on the fence) and John Sweet (against resolution). Please send this out to all of your contacts.
If passed, Coos County will be the first county in the State to stand against tyranny. All we need is this one victory to take the fight to the Oregon State legislature. Please let the commissioners know how crucial it is for them to pass the resolution rejecting the NDAA. Their oath is to support the U.S. and Oregon Constitutions.
Commissioner Melissa Cribbins. Direct line 541-396-7539 Cell 541-217-0272
mcribbins@co.coos.or.us
Commissioner John Sweet. Direct line 541-396-7541 Cell 541-404-5383
jsweet@co.coos.or.us
Thank you kindly,
Tom McKirgan
S.W. Oregon Oath Keepers Coordinator
Fellow Patriots,
On April 2nd, myself and Shane Ozbun with PANDA proposed the resolution to the Coos County Oregon commissioners asking them to reject sections 1021 and 1022 of the 2012 NDAA. This is a non partisan issue
We're awaiting their decision, but do not know when they will vote on it. Commissioner Bob Main is 100% in favor of passing the resolution.
We could sure use many more calls and emails from all of you to sway commissioners Melissa Cribbins (on the fence) and John Sweet (against resolution). Please send this out to all of your contacts.
If passed, Coos County will be the first county in the State to stand against tyranny. All we need is this one victory to take the fight to the Oregon State legislature. Please let the commissioners know how crucial it is for them to pass the resolution rejecting the NDAA. Their oath is to support the U.S. and Oregon Constitutions.
Commissioner Melissa Cribbins. Direct line 541-396-7539 Cell 541-217-0272
mcribbins@co.coos.or.us
Commissioner John Sweet. Direct line 541-396-7541 Cell 541-404-5383
jsweet@co.coos.or.us
Thank you kindly,
Tom McKirgan
S.W. Oregon Oath Keepers Coordinator
Residents of Coos County,
On Tuesday April 2nd, 2013 at the Coos County Owen building located at Coquille, Or, representatives of Oath Keepers and Coos County Watchdog will present a resolution to the Coos County Board of Commissioners on the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) requesting they officially reject this unlawful Bill, thereby refusing to enforce these extreme violations of the U.S. and Oregon Constitutions.
Under the NDAA American citizens and lawful resident aliens are subject to the military laws of war, outside of Constitutional limitations. This includes rendition to a foreign country or entity and held indefinitely until the end of hostilities, subject to torture, execution and assassination. Civilian detainees are not allowed any form
of due process and may never know why they were taken into custody. They don't get an attorney, no
arraignment, no habias corpus, no trial by jury, but a military tribunal, no phone call, nothing. This effects every single one of us.
The public is strongly encouraged to come and support this urgent struggle to maintain our Constitutional
liberties. Those who wish to be heard by the board, must sign in before 9:30 AM. Come one, come all fellow patriots. This is our last chance to be heard by the board of commissioners, asking them to take a
stand in protecting their citizens by honoring their sworn oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution by passing the resolution to officially reject the NDAA once and for all.
Thomas Jefferson wrote: "Nullification is the rightful remedy when the Federal Government reaches beyond it's Constitutional powers." This statement was meant for the times we're now living in. Please come and show your
support.
Tom McKirgan
tmckirgan@gmail.com
Under the NDAA American citizens and lawful resident aliens are subject to the military laws of war, outside of Constitutional limitations. This includes rendition to a foreign country or entity and held indefinitely until the end of hostilities, subject to torture, execution and assassination. Civilian detainees are not allowed any form
of due process and may never know why they were taken into custody. They don't get an attorney, no
arraignment, no habias corpus, no trial by jury, but a military tribunal, no phone call, nothing. This effects every single one of us.
The public is strongly encouraged to come and support this urgent struggle to maintain our Constitutional
liberties. Those who wish to be heard by the board, must sign in before 9:30 AM. Come one, come all fellow patriots. This is our last chance to be heard by the board of commissioners, asking them to take a
stand in protecting their citizens by honoring their sworn oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution by passing the resolution to officially reject the NDAA once and for all.
Thomas Jefferson wrote: "Nullification is the rightful remedy when the Federal Government reaches beyond it's Constitutional powers." This statement was meant for the times we're now living in. Please come and show your
support.
Tom McKirgan
tmckirgan@gmail.com
Dear Ms. Cribbins,
I appreciate you taking a minute to reply to my NDAA concerns. I appreciate that you and the other commissioners major job is to handle county issues, but our concerns about Federal issues, such as the NDAA, will be a huge issue as more and more people are labeled and arrested without Constitutional Cause, simply
because our Federal Government wants to persecute law abiding citizens who choose to obey God's Laws, believe in the Constitution, want the government to be physically responsible (hell, be responsible for all they do), choose to prepare for hard times, want sound money, or to own a gun for personal protection.
Today, I refused to fly or travel far from home, as I have personally seen roving caravans of Black Federal SUVs patrolling the highways between here and Colorado last summer. As I make a point of traveling the secondary roads when I vacation to enjoy the back country, I was amazed at the number of times I passed these caravans. This is something I've never seen before in my travels and wondered why this strange anomaly was now occurring.
It is now evident and proven that this Federal Government is purposely undermining our Beloved Country. Obama has his 'civilian army' (every bit as well armed and funded as our National Military), has purchased thousands of Military M-4 Rifes (not to be confused with semi-auto AR-15s that civilians use), billions of
rounds of hollow point ammo ( not even allowed for use in War), transferred thousands of Armored Assault Vehicles from our overseas War Zones to our cities here, created 100s of Fusion Centers (FEMA Camps), and has purchased and stored massive amounts of plastic coffins. Does this sound like a government we can trust?
Those of us who are true Constitutional Patriots are fighting a war against our own government that we never anticipated, and, quite frankly, resent. We are fighting for YOU, as well as ourselves. All we ask in return is your serious consideration and support on such issues as the Resolution against the NDAA for the protection of us all.
It has been indicated that Mr. Main is in favor of this Resolution, Mr. Sweet is not. So, you are the 'swing vote'. We, your constituents, believe the War will be won ON THE LOCAL LEVEL, but we need your belief and support to survive!
Please give this very serious thought, as we need your solid fortification!
Thanks, again, for listening!
With sincere respect,
Connie Martin
Constitutional Conservative/2nd Amendment Advocate
I appreciate you taking a minute to reply to my NDAA concerns. I appreciate that you and the other commissioners major job is to handle county issues, but our concerns about Federal issues, such as the NDAA, will be a huge issue as more and more people are labeled and arrested without Constitutional Cause, simply
because our Federal Government wants to persecute law abiding citizens who choose to obey God's Laws, believe in the Constitution, want the government to be physically responsible (hell, be responsible for all they do), choose to prepare for hard times, want sound money, or to own a gun for personal protection.
Today, I refused to fly or travel far from home, as I have personally seen roving caravans of Black Federal SUVs patrolling the highways between here and Colorado last summer. As I make a point of traveling the secondary roads when I vacation to enjoy the back country, I was amazed at the number of times I passed these caravans. This is something I've never seen before in my travels and wondered why this strange anomaly was now occurring.
It is now evident and proven that this Federal Government is purposely undermining our Beloved Country. Obama has his 'civilian army' (every bit as well armed and funded as our National Military), has purchased thousands of Military M-4 Rifes (not to be confused with semi-auto AR-15s that civilians use), billions of
rounds of hollow point ammo ( not even allowed for use in War), transferred thousands of Armored Assault Vehicles from our overseas War Zones to our cities here, created 100s of Fusion Centers (FEMA Camps), and has purchased and stored massive amounts of plastic coffins. Does this sound like a government we can trust?
Those of us who are true Constitutional Patriots are fighting a war against our own government that we never anticipated, and, quite frankly, resent. We are fighting for YOU, as well as ourselves. All we ask in return is your serious consideration and support on such issues as the Resolution against the NDAA for the protection of us all.
It has been indicated that Mr. Main is in favor of this Resolution, Mr. Sweet is not. So, you are the 'swing vote'. We, your constituents, believe the War will be won ON THE LOCAL LEVEL, but we need your belief and support to survive!
Please give this very serious thought, as we need your solid fortification!
Thanks, again, for listening!
With sincere respect,
Connie Martin
Constitutional Conservative/2nd Amendment Advocate
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