From:
Rick Hoffine ([email protected])
Sent: Mon 9/16/13 7:48 AM
  To:  
Cc: AFP Coos ([email protected])
 
To All Coos Co. AFP Members and Friends,

We'll meet Thursday, September 19th at 5:30pm at the ESD Building, Coos Bay.  Republican Chair of Coos Co., Jason Payne, will address us. Big Daddy  Noorlander's pulled pork sandwiches will also be featured.  Donations,  as always, accepted.  There is no admission charge.
http://goo.gl/maps/8Lb8z


Regards,

Rick Hoffine
Asst Chapter
Leader
Coos AFP

Hi Rob,
Thank you for emailing me your questions. I have written my responses to your questions below, in the body of your text. I have also sent a copy of this email to Commissioner Main and Matt Winkel.

Please let me know if you have any additional questions.
 Nikki Zogg, PhD, MPH | Director
 Coos County Public Health
 1975 McPherson #1
North Bend, OR  97459
 541-751-2425
 fax:  541-751-2659
 [email protected]
 http://www.co.coos.or.us
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From: Rob Taylor  [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 3:04 PM
To: Nikki Zogg
Cc: Bob Main; Matt Winkel
Subject: Questions about the Bandon Mosquito Press Release
 
Hello Mrs. Zogg, 

I have read the county's Health Advisory Press Release concerning the Bandon Marsh mosquito problem and I have few questions about your Department's findings.
http://www.co.coos.or.us/Portals/0/Public%20Health/Documents/Bandon_Mosquito_PressRelease.pdf

Who or what entity is to blame for the mosquito problem?
Without a vector control program in place, where mosquito surveillance (i.e., trapping, speciating, monitoring for disease) would be an integral part of the program, it is difficult to say who or what singly entity is to blame. We do believe that the majority of the mosquitoes in and around the Bandon Marsh area are coming from the section of the marsh that is in the process of being reclaimed.
 
Was the first phase of the Bandon Marsh expansion in September of 2011 and the removal of the tide gates the cause of the mosquito breeding ponds, which created the mosquito infestation?
From what I understand, the efforts made to reclaim the Bandon Marsh have resulted in the creation of habitat that promotes the life cycle of theAedes dorsalis, the species that is currently most prevalent in the area.

If the tide gate removal were the cause then wouldn't spraying the mosquitoes be treating the symptoms and not a fix to the problem? 
You are correct. By spraying we'd only be fixing the current problem. An integrated vector (mosquito) control program will be most effective at addressing the short-term and long-term problem. That being
said, once the marsh is back to its natural state, the explosions of the mosquito population will occur less frequently because there will be natural drainage systems put back into the marsh.


Would you recommend that the US Fish & Wildlife Service replace those gates as a permanent solution to what will become an annual mosquito infestation?
This is not may area expertise and I do not know what was done prior to control the mosquito population.  From what I do know about this particular mosquito, Ae. dorsalis, this problem could be addressed in two ways: 1) return the land to the previous state or 2) return the land to its natural state. From what I have learned about this species of mosquito, the eggs are laid on the soil by the adult mosquito and are activated by the flooding of brackish (tide) water. This flooding can be controlled/prevented by gates or natural drainage systems built into the marsh. In addition, with monitoring by a vector control program, larvacides (natural or chemical) could be put into the water to decrease the amount mosquitoes progressing to the adult stage.

Didn't the Army Corp of Engineers install those tide gates in the early 1900's to stop the mosquito problem in the first place, because without the tide gates the reseeding tides left stagnate ponds, which became fertile breeding grounds for malaria caring mosquitoes?
I am not aware of what the motives were to install the tide gates.

If your Department recommends spraying will it stop the next several years of infestation or will the county have to spay every year from here on out? 
No, spraying this year would not stop the next several years of infestation; however, we would not  recommend spraying every year from here on out. Rather, if a vector control program is put in place, then spraying should not be necessary because as part of a solid vector control program, surveillance and control measures are put in place to mitigate these types of situations from occurring. However, it is unknown at this time if a vector control program will be supported by the County Commissioners and community.

 
Do these sprays have the potential of harming humans?
Any time a chemical is being introduced into an area where animals and people exist there is a potential risk to health that needs to be considered.


Could you name the other 5 species of mosquitoes?
The five mosquitoes that have been identified in the Bandon Marsh include:Aedes dorsalis, Culiseta particeps, Culex tarsalis, Culex pipiens and Ochlerotatus sticticus.

Thank you for your time and could you please send your reply to the Bandon City Manager and Commissioner Bob Main?


Bob Main
 [email protected]
Matt Winkel   
[email protected]

Sincerely,  Rob Taylor

Read Messerle's comments filed with FERC regarding BlueRidge LNG.  Former commissioner Messerle has alwasys been a supporter of LNG, but he is sending out some real mixed signals.
http://elibrary.ferc.gov/idmws/file_list.asp?accession_num=20130820-5075


http://mgx.com/blogs/2013/06/21/jordan-cove-lng-supporter-doesnt-want-pipeline-in-his-backyard/


http://mgx.com/blogs/2013/06/25/blueridgelng-and-the-economic-development-morass-and-more-psyops/
 

From: James Lunders <[email protected]>
Date: August 20, 2013, 8:27:21 AM PDT
To: Bob Main <[email protected]>, John Sweet <[email protected]>, Melissa Cribbins <[email protected]>,
Subject: Bandon Marsh Mosquitoes
 Coos County Commissioners & Bandon City Council,
 I have received several emails regarding the mosquito problem you are having in the Bandon area and wanted to let you know that as the North Pacific Director of the American Mosquito Control Association (AMCA) I was available to answer questions you might have about mosquitoes and mosquito control.  From the article I read in your local paper it appears that the public has been given some misinformation about the effective use of mosquito repellents as well as the safety of modern mosquito control products to both them and the environment. 

The AMCA Website is also a great resource when looking for information about mosquitoes and mosquito control.  The address is www.mosquito.org .  If I can be of any assistance please let me know.  
Sincerely,
James J. Lunders, Manager & Biologist
 Jackson County Vector Control District
 North Pacific Director, AMCA
 555 Mosquito Lane
 Central Point, OR  97502
 (541) 779-6460
 [email protected]

From: Jacob Smith 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:43 AM
To: Nikki Zogg; John Sweet; Bob Main; Melissa Cribbins;
[email protected]; [email protected]
Subject:  Help

 Doubt you will respond, but you need to know my feelings. 

Last week, I attended the meeting at the Barn. I am so sick that you allowed supposed "experts" to lie to us. After the vector control expert told us that lobsters in Maine are better than ever...I checked.  Yes they are 
better...because they OUTLAWED that chemical. They were the only state that lobsters got better and the only state the chemical was outlawed.  Now other states have started outlawing the chemical.

http://sagharboronline.com/sagharborexpress/suffolk-close-up/poisoned-lobsters-25111
 
The Coos County Commissioners knew the risk and should be sued individually.
My Tax dollars should not be paid to defend their actions.
 
Jacob
Bandon, Oregon

Hello Mr. Smith,
 
Thank you for sharing your concern and giving us an opportunity to respond.    A variety of questions have been raised about (S)-methoprene and crustaceans over the years.  These were put to rest with completion of expected environmental concentration (EEC) studies in 1992 showing that time release (S)-methoprene products do not result in aquatic concentrations of (S)-methoprene which pose a risk to crustaceans.  In the process of registering MetaLarv® S-PT, a similar EEC study was completed.   Concentrations in the MetaLarv® S-PT study also fell below the threshold of risk.

Attached is a report from EPA on the methoprene re-registration process.  Here are the report’s Regulatory
Conclusions: 
• The studies available to EPA indicate that the biochemical insect growth regulator
Methoprene is of low toxicity and poses very little hazard to people and other non-target species.

 • Ecological concerns contained in the 1991 Methoprene R.E.D. FACTS document related to toxicity to estuarine invertebrates have been alleviated as a result of submission of the estuarine invertebrate life cycle toxicity study in 1996, which indicated minimal chronic risk to Mysid Shrimp.

 It may also be of benefit to you to know that Oregon Department of Environmental Quality, Oregon Fish and
Wildlife, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Oregon Health Authority permitted or approved the product selection and application plan.

I hope that this information eases your concerns. I'd also like to add that USFWS is paying the full cost of the application.

 Regards,
 Nikki Zogg, PhD, MPH | Director
Coos County Public Health
1975 McPherson Ave.
North Bend, OR 97459
 541-435-4215
 [email protected]

Hi Rob 
Richard Fry, the Constitutional attorney working with us has written a rebuttal on The World's article on the NDAA. I posted it on Mary Geddry's site.

Richard asks that his letter be sent out to everyone on our lists to bring attention to it. Mary's also looking into a demonstration to be held in front of The World office. 

Thanks a bunch guys,
Tom

"​World’s Article Patronized Patriots Calls for Counter Attack Strategy against Citizens​"​
  The August 13th Op-ed piece put out by the World’s editorial board  can only be characterize as a counter attack against the citizens’ effort to get the local governments to uphold their oath to the  Constitution. Such was insulting, patronizing and transparent to all but the most naive in these matters and / or those desperately in need of  praise and acceptance. 

The editorial board’s advice to the local governing bodies on how to  deal with citizens:”… listen attentively, then get back to the job it  was elected to do. How UN-American. Ignore the citizens but do it  politely and sugar coat it with praise. This is the fundamental reason  we are losing the Republic and the personal Liberty for which it once  stood i.e., indifference to the citizens. 

The editorial board apparently thinks the citizens behind this  movement are so inexperienced, so naive or so emotionally crippled they  cannot understand the true nature of the board’s article. The board  surrounded its real message in pseudo-praise of the citizens involved.  Leading off with: “They are nothing if not passionate” the meaning of  which became clear by the end of the article i.e., The World’s editorial board thinks we are naive zealots.

The article was not so much of a message as it was a demonstration of how to counter attack the efforts of the citizens. It encourages the  local governments of Oregon to largely follow the path taken by the Coos County Commission: deny, delay, and deceive. The board even  characterized the Coos County Commissions’  passage of a do nothing  resolution, of its own design, as a “partial victory”.  In fact it was  and will remain a total loss for Liberty unless the citizens now take  appropriate action to re-educate the Commission on their true  responsibilities which includes being responsive to the will of the  citizens.  The Commission’s action was cowardly and deceptive. 

The board apparently believes a key to success of this counter attack is to heap insincere and meaningless praise upon those leading the  charge. Pat them on the head and tell them they are smart little boys  and girls and that they really appreciate our patriotism and our “quintessentially American” activism.” 

They are like the politicians in the middle of a new election cycle  who pump out the words and phrases their researchers tell them the “tea  party”  people will responded to like: “conservative”, “original   intent” , “fiscal  conservative,” “self reliance” and “personal  responsibility.” 

The board’s comments that the citizens involved in this effort are ” well organized, educated on their position and motivated by  patriotism…”, ” [t]heir presentations are thorough, their arguments  persuasive…,” “the activism they’re practicing is quintessentially  American — citizens actively engaged in the conduct of their  government…”are insincere tripe and only meant to divert, delude,  deceive and defeat the actions of “We the people.” 

We do not need anyone to tell us we are good little patriots and how  proud they are of us. We understand what the politicians’ oath of  support means and what it requires of them and we understand when they  are not up holding it.  They do not need to be proud of us they need to  fear us. 

The editorial board’s article exposes  it’s misunderstanding of or a  disregard for the fundamental way this Republic is suppose to operate,  where the citizens are the “kings” and the government is the servant.   It is instead promoting a type of benign feudalism in which the  government is sovereign and rules over its wards of the state, the  citizens, in a patient and forgiving majesty.   

Thanks but no thanks.

 Richard D. Fry, Esq.
General Counsel
Patriot Coalition

Hey everyone, 
Thank you for calling and emailing the BOC and letting them know that the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 is a very bad law for Americans.  The Commissioners voted down the Restoring Constitutional Governance Resolution that Constitutional Attorney Richard Fry had drafted specifically to oppose the unconstitutional provisions of the NDAA 2012 and opted to vote on the resolution most acceptable to the Board. 
The result was a stronger draft on the resolution drafted by Commissioner Main and Legal Counsel Josh Sober, but it still has a few problems with its final construct.  Commissioner Sweet stood his ground and voted NO on both resolutions.  
 
Unfortunately, the support for an initiative to put the RCG resolution on the ballot is waning due to the passage of the compromised resolution passed by the BOC.  Therefore, I do not believe it would be wise to waste energy on an initiative when we can work to put most of the wording from the RCG resolution into the Coordination Plan that the County’s attorney is currently drafting.  Enacting the Coordination Plan with this wording would make the resolution part of the law and not just a symbolic document.  

There are other opportunities on the horizon.  The Coos Bay City Council will be deciding if the city should enact the RCG Resolution and you can help by calling the City Councilors and ask them to support your rights by voting YES on the RCG Resolution against the unconstitutional provisions, sections 1021 & 1022 of the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012.  You can contact the Coos Bay Councilors by calling or emailing the City Manager. 
 
Coos Bay City Manager
541-269-8912
[email protected] 
 
Please continue to stay current on this issue in Coos County, because we will be calling on your support again. 
America’s perpetual War on Terror & War on Drugs has created an environment of constant government suspicion and surveillance of the people at an exponentially alarming rate.  We must be vigilant against these types of laws.   

The Commission's resolution is deficient in the following regards:
1.    It does not address the application of the "law of war" to citizens[1] anywhere including in the U.S., under whatever asserted authority, 
 
2.   It address only "indefinite military detention", but NDAA violates over half the Bill of Rights[2]and citizen
protections under Article III §3,

3.   It does not find the subject NDAA provisions to be "unconstitutional" but only "opposes" the ""indefinite military detention" thereby tacitly approving the vast majority of violations of citizens' fundamental rights,

4.   It does not direct employees and agents of the County not to assist in the violation of citizens’ rights and thereby leaves it up to the employees discretion as to whether they assist in such violations,  

5.   It does not direct employees and agents of the County to go to the aid of citizens whose fundamental rights are being violated under the NDAA or other related authority, thereby failing to provide leadership to their
subordinates,

6.   By failing to provide a detailed account of the NDAA violation, they are failing to educate and motivate our fellow citizens and public officials about the serious constitutional violations and to act to protect the citizens'  rights.

7.   By substituting their deficient resolution for that proposed by the citizens, the Commissioners are attempting
to disregard the will of "We the People".

8.   By proposing and supporting this resolution, the Commissioners are violating their oath to support the Constitution and are violating their duty to protect the fundamental rights of the citizens. 

Richard D. Fry, 
General Counsel
Patriot Coalition

Subject: Public Notice - Town Hall Meeting on the Bandon Marsh Mosquito Source Control Plan
  September 6,  2013                                                 
FOR IMMEDIATE  RELEASE

 Public Notice
Coos County has  created a webpage to provide information to the public regarding the Mosquito  Source Control Plan for the Bandon Marsh Refuge and Surrounding area.  The  webpage provides information on the products being used and gives concerned citizens an opportunity to sign-up to receive notifications of when the Dibrom  aerial application for the refuge and surrounding area will occur. The notifications will come from our Health Alert Network and will inform citizens when the applications will start.  

The web address  is: http://www.co.coos.or.us/Departments/PublicHealth/PublicServiceAnnouncements.aspx

 In addition,  Coos County Public Health will be hosting a Town Hall Meeting for the community  of Bandon. The details for the Town Hall are:

What: Town Hall  Meeting 
Why: Share  information about the mosquito source control plans and measures, and address  community questions and concerns
When: Monday  (9/9/2013) at 6:30pm
Where: The  Barn
             1200 11th St.
             Bandon, OR
 If you have  questions or concerns please contact Coos County Health Department at  541-751-2431.